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Lights that spark fire nation. JLD here with an audio master class that we're calling from the basketball court to the boardroom to drop these Value Bombs are brought to Austin Chatman on the MC. He is in the steam leader and results oriented individual With vast international experience that helped him nurture and extensive globalnetwork. Through professional athletics. He successfully led organizations to major championships in play off of births by using interpersonal skills, cultural competence, mentoring, project management, forecasting, and budgeting skills and fire nation. Today we'll be breaking down what it took to transition from a college athlete to a professional athlete, to a business person, and all the lessons learned in between.

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And believe me, this is going to be applicable for everybody listening. The lessons are universal. As soon as we get back from thinking our Sponsors fire nation, With the holiday season right around the corner Klaviyo is ready to help you prepare for cyber Weekend and beyond find webinars, guides, and other resources designed to help you make the most of the years at biggest e-commerce opportunity visit klaviyo.com/holiday to discover strategies for cyber Weekend that's klaviyo.com/holiday. Austin say what's up to fire nation and share something interesting about yourself that most people don't know

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Fire nation. How's it gone? Austin Chatman here. Most people don't know that. I actually do not know how to play the Viola for two years in a middle school. I played in there and I was actually thinking about purchase of one here soon to pick it back up.

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All right. Well, if you pick it up in time for this interview to go live, maybe you can send me a little audio riff, which I'll add on to the end of this episode. And we can have some fun with that. And I typically don't do this awesome, but I'm actually going to share something that you don't know about me because in doing some research for this interview, I was like, that's really fascinating. So fire nation, as I shared, you know, in the intro is that, you know, Austin spent for years as a division one basketball player at Creighton Austin. And I hope that it doesn't sabotage in the interview, but I'm actually a Providence college alum. And I was at the 2014 biggies Basketball championship game at Madison square garden.

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Where by the way, you guys played a fantastic game, it was so back and forth. Jeff hit these threes at the end of the game. I was like, there's no way he's making those shots. And he's making them from basically half Court. And fortunately for me, the friars were able to pull it out of the end, but I'm sorry if I sabotage

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That's alright, you guys got great fans and that's great satire, but you got to be that great fans, man.

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You have to be honest. I think crane does too. I mean, in your home court is sash a tough place to play. People just care about Basketball out at Creighton and fire nation. You know that I like to talk about college basketball a little bit on this, because know it's really my only passion have sports. And I just, you know what I mean? I know more about the people that Providence college is a recruiting to be on our basketball team next year. And they know about my neighbors. I mean, I'm, I'm really that crazy when it comes to this stuff, but Austin, he, you know, he, he is, this person is going to be talking about here today, who went from the basketball court to the boardroom. You heard the introduction that I gave him in Austin. I'm excited to chat because you were that division one basketball player that we talked about at Creighton in your, also a business students.

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So I want to start by talking about how you found Creighton's Jesuit values and their just overall focused on ethics shaped you as an individual over the course of your first year.

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Yeah, I would say at first, just like just to put this in like a modern terms, honestly, starting from step one, I think obviously from the beginning, I was always told, you know, you're too small. You can do this or you can't do that. You know, you, you're not the size of, you know, a normal guard or maybe you aren't tall or not for maybe you aren't strong enough. So it was always like that striving for greatness at a LeBron would put it or striving for excellence. Right. So then from there I was like, okay, then it was recognizing there there's something different there. So then it was using what I had also to help my team right. And be a leader in that regard and improve everybody else around me.

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So you really proved a lot of people wrong over the years. I mean, you actually went on to play professional basketball and the G league and also in Europe. And you know, of course you had that collegiate career at Creighton as well. So talk to us about some of those lessons that you learned during your time at Creighton, in the G league in Europe as a professional basketball player that you've kind of leaned on in the business world.

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So it really just sticking to simplicity. Honestly, you know, you here, all these cliches of like, you know, determination in all of these things, but it's like, if you stay simple with your tasks and say a rigorous with that task is going to be up and down and it's like, the market is going to go up and down, but you have to be fun to flat line, right? You can't get too high, you can't get too low. You have to always somehow remain in the middle. And it was just kinda like from a very young age. I think I, I, I kind of a sports taught me that I'm, but it just kind of translates. So a lot of different areas of life where if you can say, look, you know, okay, today I might be the greatest day ever.

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You can assume that everybody is going to be as great as today, right? Like we're not going to have these great days or 365 days of the year. There was going to be bad days as well. So you have to be able to stay in between that and like, know that, okay, as great as it is, this also could be, you know, as bad as great as it is, which is something that was taken thing is realism, you know, taking things as they are a lot of takeaways

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Here at fire nation. Number one, I just love that simplicity that you talked about. And for me, like when I was in corporate finance and you were talking about all those ups and downs, you know, it was always going back to the simplicity of be better at those basics that I was talking about fire nation. I mean, that's what it means at the core of simplicity in like Austin mentioned your going to have your ups and your downs, but there's another phrase that I'm in love with, and that's this too, shall pass this too, shall pass, because guess what, when you're having those ups and you're having your best day ever, you know, if you're being honest with yourself, this too shall pass, so appreciate it. Enjoy it. If you don't expect this is going to be repeated every day and the same thing with your lows, this too shall pass.

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Now, one thing I want to move into before we move on Austin is, you know, you've talked a lot about you having your ups and your downs. What would you say was your best day as a professional athletes? What comes to mind when I ask that question is, is there a day that your just like, man, if I can just relive one of my professional basketball days over and over again, it would it be that day?

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I mean, it was a game, maybe it was one of those like 43 points maybe in the room just felt enormous, you know, but it's like that when you're in a flow, you know, and it was this thing of all successful people to talk about is getting too that flow state. But, and that's kind of my next point is that its kind of where we started to take a different shift for me when I started really integrating meditation into my practice. But I was really stuck into the flow state of, you know, all right, I'm in the game, nothing outside of the, and it bothered me, nothing else inside of these autoparts is controlling. What else is going on in the task at hand? You know? And once you start to be able to decipher that and have like an actual awareness to that, that's when you'll start to see strides, just a lot of different areas a lot.

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Do you realize that you are a professional basketball athlete and you know, you had that experience, but I just want to say, you know, for me, like I, I played basketball for eight years. I never felt like the basketball hoop was any bigger than essentially like eight inches around. Like I, I just never was able to kind of have that moment that day. So I think you should treasure that because I mean 42 points at one game in a pro game, that's, that's quite a special day. But on the flip side, like you also have a mentioned previously, you've had some bad days, which was one of your worst, what's one of the worst days you had as an athlete.

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How would you say getting a cut, you know, and having to deal with that rejection and understand so I can take it back to luckily I was able to shout out to my guy, ruts it, vision pursuit, I'm going to say, but he used the acronym it's called CE. So you separate, you embrace and then you just evaluate, right? So the separate you kind of, you that's awareness factor in braces, like understanding and then you evaluate, you know, Oh, that's basically the third step after the other steps and work. Right? So I've kinda odd at this and to the, the, Rabbitohs just like the day of living the w schedule and you know, it was helped to accept things, but not expect things to, you know, and that's the biggest thing that I think anybody could learn.

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And it's like, you can't expect anything that you can accept everything,

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Talk about how you handle these adversities.

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They were a tough at first. I mean, and it's like for anybody, but just enter it in the workforce and just going From a whole different or not an Orthodox setting is different, right? Like, but I think sports has just to prepare me to like be comfortable in those scenarios where things might not feel comfortable, you know, and being uncomfortable and comfortable situations. So a lot of the battles and testaments that that can teach you has taught me a lot just from dealing with adversity rejection, but then it comes back to yourself and understanding, okay, is this truly what you need are, you know, is that the time for this are, you know, having an accepting,

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One thing that I've always been curious about is transition and you are able to transition from a pro athlete to working at a startup in a startup, as much as some similarities, I feel with a team and being a pro-athlete on some levels, I assume, you know, only as an outsider looking in, but I'm just kind of curious from your perspective, like, are there any similarities of being a pro-athlete and working at a start up and what was that transition? Like?

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I think there's similarities, not even just like with a startup, that's probably what, like a lot of businesses that are thriving and, and doing things the right way, that it is a team oriented thing. But I think anything, you know, you can relate to this, even the, just your relationship's like it has to be a team effort to reach a goal, right? So I think this startup has taught me, you know, you have to learn how to pivot and, and I guess pivot can be the thing of having understanding of adversity. You can kind of throw that in all of those types of terms, but being able to pivot in it and actually just stop on a dime and be like, Oh, we're going this way with what we're doing or no, we are doing something completely different here and you have to be able to drop your hat and figure it out is just kind of what sports has prepared me for to be able to think on your toes, acting on your toes and think ahead of the steps.

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So given us a lot of Value Bombs I love that acronym C separate embrace evaluates. I love that phrase, except don't expect this is a lot of cool things you share with us so far, but I would really just like for you to kind of, to take a step back thinking about our conversation and just say, Hey, what's one thing that I really want our audience today to walk away with. What would that one thing you would want to share it to our listeners that kind of goes in touch with a theme that we've talked about today

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Except and not expect, right? Because I think my generation in general is the first generation basically to come up in this whole spin air of this technology, right? So everybody wants instant gratification and we want things now and we want things, you know, on our timeframe, but that's not really how our reality works in a sentence. And I think a lot of like peers and things have a lot of things times adjusting to that. But you know, once you can start to battle through that and deal with rejection and you can look in anybody's story and everybody has times where they didn't get what they thought they should have, or they were injected in a certain area and they it's still, you know, reach a certain level or where they are today.

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And everybody has those stories, but you have to be able to deal with that rejection and a set and not expect Fire

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Nation instant gratification. It's a fool's game. I love how you broke that down for us Austin. And you know, this fire nation, your, the average of the five people we spend the most time with me, you've been hanging out with AC and JLD today. So make sure to keep up that heat and Austin, if any of our listeners want to kind of connect with you or what your doing in this world, where would you point them?

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Instagram is a1chatman. And a lot of people would use Twitter's is Austin_Chatman

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Fire nation. Make sure to head over to eofire.com type Austin in the search bar to the shirtless page. It will pop up with everything we've talked about today. His Instagram handle, you name it, all of the Value Bombs in Austin. I just want to say thank you brother, for sharing your truth, your history, your knowledge, your value with fire nation. For that we salute you and we'll catch you on the flip side.

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Hey,

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Side fire nation

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