Joel Kocher is a transformational leader who drove Dell’s rise to Fortune 100 and co-founded Human, a leading cardiovascular wellness brand, earning national recognition for innovation, impact, and entrepreneurship excellence.
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Guest Resources
Joel Kocher LinkedIn – Connect with Joel on LinkedIn. He’s operating from purpose, not capital gain and his aim is impact.
Humann – Check out Joel’s website to learn more about Cardiovascular Health products.
3 Value Bombs
1. You are who you hire. Great companies are built through people, not products.
2. Focus is what makes the flywheel spin; follow one course until success.
3. True impact comes from disrupting for good, not chasing quick exits.
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Show Notes
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Today’s Audio MASTERCLASS: Why Scaling Wellness Takes a Tech Mindset
[1:11] — Joel shares something he believes about becoming successful that most people disagree with.
- Success depends on the people you surround yourself with.
- A company is defined by its hiring decisions; every single one.
- He believes CEOs should interview every person joining the team.
[1:56] — Joel talks about cross-industry lessons & disrupting the status quo.
- He is a lifelong disrupter with a career marked by four major industry shakeups.
- True disruption equals to changing the world, not just improving margins.
- Time is finite; what matters is the mark you leave beyond capital gain.
[4:21] — Joel talks about the case for cardiovascular health and why it’s non-negotiable.
- The body has 60,000 miles of blood vessels.
- These vessels deliver oxygen to all 37 trillion cells; without blood flow, cells die within minutes.
- Most people obsess over trendy supplements rather than foundational cardiovascular health.
- Humann first educated physicians before consumers. Thousands have been trained over 15 years.
- Cardiovascular health is the “superhighway of human performance.”
[6:55] — Joel talks about health for everyone.
- The misconception: “cardiovascular = heart = old people.”
- Reality: healthy blood flow improves everything at 8 years old or 88.
- Humann’s mission is to change the trajectory of cardiovascular health using proven tech.
[8:48] – A timeout to thank our sponsors.
- Framer: The website builder that helps you build better websites, faster! Get started building for free today at Framer.com/fire! Plus, get 30% off a Framer Pro annual plan! Rules and Restrictions May Apply.
- Thrivetime Show: This is your year to transform your business! Start your transformation by attending the world’s highest rated business growth workshop at ThrivetimeShow.com/EOFire!
- HighLevel: The ultimate all-in-one platform for entrepreneurs, marketers, coaches, and agencies! Learn more at HighLevelFire.com!
[12:30]— Joel talks about staying grounded amid trends.
- He has led companies of all sizes and focus is the ultimate differentiator.
- “Focus is what makes the flywheel fly.”
- Don’t chase “mice” (fads) when elephants (long-term strategy) are running down the street.
- Their 15-year-old strategy deck still guides the company today.
- Lack of focus is one of the biggest drivers of business failure.
[14:48] — Joel talks about building a category-defining brand.
- You must start with a disruptive mindset.
- Commit to doing it right, not quick.
- Entrepreneurs today rush to exit instead of rushing to excellence.
- Humann spent a year talking to physicians before selling anything.
- 13 clinical trials underpin the brand; evidence before hype.
- Discipline + hard yards equals to long-term separation from competitors.
[17:25] — Joel talks about proving real-world impact.
- Humann has delivered 750 million doses to the market.
- Consumer reviews, Amazon testimonials, and physician feedback confirm meaningful results.
- Over 100,000 copycat products attempt to imitate them which is a proof of category leadership.
- Copycats mean you’re onto something, but you can never relax.
[19:00] — Joel gives his closing value bomb and how to create lasting impact.
- If you’re not trying to change the world, you’re playing the wrong game.
- Think beyond capital gain; think deeper purpose.
- Changing the world is hard; it’s an “adults-only exercise.”
- Dig deep. Find the thing that truly matters.
- If your vision can change the world, you’re in the right lane.
[20:29] — Call to action.
- Joel Kocher LinkedIn – Connect with Joel on LinkedIn. He’s operating from purpose, not capital gain and his aim is impact.
- Humann – Check out Joel’s website to learn more about Cardiovascular Health products.
[22:48] – Thank you to our Sponsors!
- Thrivetime Show: This is your year to transform your business! Start your transformation by attending the world’s highest rated business growth workshop at ThrivetimeShow.com/EOFire!
- HighLevel: The ultimate all-in-one platform for entrepreneurs, marketers, coaches, and agencies! Learn more at HighLevelFire.com!
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