From the archive: This episode was originally recorded and published in 2022. Our interviews on Entrepreneurs On Fire are meant to be evergreen, and we do our best to confirm that all offers and URL’s in these archive episodes are still relevant.
Juliet Funt is the author of A Minute to Think and CEO of the Juliet Funt Group. She is an evangelist for freeing the potential of companies by unburdening them from busywork.
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3 Value Bombs
1) In building fire, you can have great dry wood, crumply newspaper… but if you skip one critical ingredient, your fire will never ignite. That ingredient is space between combustibles. It’s the same for your work.
2) Busyness tricks people into thinking that they are productive when they are only active. That confusion between activity and productivity costs companies millions of dollars.
3) When you want to clock out at the end of the day, trap yourself in a promise. Say out loud that you’re done for the day. Saying it out loud creates verbal accountability. It’ll be harder to go back some minutes later and work again when you have stated work is over.
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Show Notes
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Today’s Audio MASTERCLASS: A Minute To Think with Juliet Funt
[1:36] – Juliet shares something that she believes about becoming successful that most people disagree with.
- There’s a thing called “enough success”. Success for others is a mountain that gets higher as you climb. Many times, you can stop climbing and appreciate the nice view from where you’re at.
[3:00] – The reason why Juliet wrote the book A Minute To Think.
- She has been a tourist for about 20 years in corporate America, meeting people who work corporate jobs, watching them tolerate misery.
[4:51] – People are scared to give themselves a moment to do nothing. They’re fearful of doing nothing. What is white space, and what does a lack of it cost people?
- In building fire, you can have great dry wood, crumply newspaper… but if you skip one critical ingredient, your fire will never ignite. That ingredient is space between combustibles. It’s the same for your work.
- White space is the time you have with no assignments. It is the open space that oxygenates you, your ideas, and your spark.
[7:11] – The single most critical use of white space.
- Rest and recuperation. Only 25% of professional people use this space. They also use it to reflect, step back, create.
[8:52] – A timeout to thank our sponsors!
- HighLevel: The ultimate all-in-one platform for entrepreneurs, marketers, coaches, and agencies! Learn more at HighLevelFire.com!
- Airbnb: Your home might be worth more than you think! Find out how much at Airbnb.com/host.
- Public: Build a multi-asset portfolio of stocks, bonds, options, crypto, and more. Go to Public.com/fire to fund your account in five minutes or less!
- All investing involves the risk of loss, including loss of principal. Brokerage services for US-listed, registered securities, options and bonds in a self-directed account are offered by Public Investing, Inc., member FINRA & SIPC. Public Investing offers a High-Yield Cash Account where funds from this account are automatically deposited into partner banks where they earn interest and are eligible for FDIC insurance; Public Investing is not a bank. Cryptocurrency trading services are offered by Bakkt Crypto Solutions, LLC (NMLS ID 1890144), which is licensed to engage in virtual currency business activity by the NYSDFS. Cryptocurrency is highly speculative, involves a high degree of risk, and has the potential for loss of the entire amount of an investment. Cryptocurrency holdings are not protected by the FDIC or SIPC. Alpha is an experimental AI tool powered by GPT-4. Its output may be inaccurate and is not investment advice. Public makes no guarantees about its accuracy or reliability—verify independently before use. *Rate as of 6/24/25. APY is variable and subject to change. **Terms and Conditions apply.
[11:43] – Is whitespace easy to grasp for people in real life?
- If you took an MRI scan of your brain and look at a window with no activity, you’ll see that your brain is colorful and on fire with activity in that moment.
- If you have time in your calendar that doesn’t have assignment, it’s not time that’s empty. Time with no assignment means you go places, think thoughts, feel empathy… have time for ideation, iteration, self-care.
- White space doesn’t have to be lengthy.
- White space is not just for rest and wellness.
[14:18] – The hidden cost of busyness.
- Busyness tricks people into thinking that they are productive when they are only active. That confusion between activity and productivity costs companies millions of dollars.
[17:48] – Grounding ourselves to deliver great work, despite massive upheavals.
- Start with permission.
- Then look to experience white space.
- A lot of times, white space is served to you on a silver platter… waiting for the computer to load, waiting in line, on hold on the phone
[22:29] – Where can Fire Nation get your book, and what are your key takeaways?
- When you want to clock out at the end of the day, trap yourself in a promise. Say out loud that you’re done for the day. Saying it out loud creates verbal accountability. It’ll be harder to go back some minutes later and work again when you have stated work is over.
- A Minute to Think – Get the first chapter of Juliet’s book for FREE! (Sorry! This link was active when this episode was first published in 2022. This resource is no longer available.)
[25:52] – Thank you to our Sponsor!
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