Rachel Dove is the founder of Dungeons Not Dating, a platform helping players find tabletop parties. After setbacks and a beta year, she rebuilt, learned to code, and relaunched with a waitlist-first growth strategy.
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Dungeons Not Dating – Check out Rachel’s website and join the waitlist.
Dungeons Not Dating Instagram – Follow Dungeons Not Dating on Instagram to stay updated on the relaunch.
Dungeons Not Dating LinkedIn – Follow Dungeons Not Dating on LinkedIn.
3 Value Bombs
1. Traction is behavior, not enthusiasm; likes and compliments don’t equal conversions or retention.
2. Setbacks are data; they reveal skill gaps and show you exactly what to improve before your next move.
3. Ownership is freedom; technical literacy changes your leverage, your confidence, and your outcomes.
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Show Notes
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Today’s Audio MASTERCLASS: From Burned Once to Built Right: Relaunching a Tech Startup the Smart Way
[1:13] – Rachel shares something she believes about becoming successful that most people disagree with.
- Traction is not enthusiasm; enthusiasm does not guarantee retention or referrals.
- Real traction is measured by behavior patterns: subscriptions, deposits, usage and not applause.
- Social media likes are not validation; conversion is.
[2:10] – Rachel talks about what her beta year reveal about validation versus vulnerability.
- Early compliments created a false sense of product-market fit.
- Community support was confused with real behavioral validation.
- Vulnerability is powerful, but boundaries and data matter more than applause.
[3:55] – Rachel talks about what happened when she was taken advantage of early on.
- Trusted a large development firm too quickly and outsourced too much ownership.
- Faced delays, rising costs, and blame-shifting without having technical literacy to push back.
- Reached a fork in the road: walk away embarrassed or take radical ownership.
- Chose to rebuild and rebuild herself in the process.
[7:10] – Rachel tells why enrolling in a full-time coding bootcamp was the right decision.
- Needed technical fluency and pattern recognition not senior-level engineering skills.
- Coding literacy created leverage and confidence in developer conversations.
- It didn’t just change the product; it changed her posture in the tech world.
[9:15] – A timeout to thank our sponsors.
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[12:36] – Rachel talks about what were the most important changes she made during the redesign.
- Let go of the original development firm and hired a new aligned dev team.
- Shifted from fantasy features to infrastructure-first, behavior-focused design.
- Removed friction and simplified to core utility (true MVP).
- Built with scalability in mind for long-term growth.
[14:31] – Rachel talks about why prioritize a waitlist and college gaming club outreach instead of mass adoption.
- Platforms thrive on network density, not vanity user counts.
- Early-stage founders need the right users; not just more users.
- Building anticipation through a waitlist allows for feedback before scaling.
- Focused communities create raving fans who give honest product input.
[15:56] – Rachel talks about what is Dungeons Not Dating.
- A swipe-style platform designed to help people find their perfect Dungeons & Dragons party not a date.
- Profiles focus on D&D characters and play style instead of romantic compatibility.
- Built to connect tabletop players for epic adventures.
[16:43] – Rachel tells what mindset helped her stay in the game after a major setback.
- Setbacks are data; they reveal the exact skill gap to close.
- Upgrading the founder comes before upgrading the product.
- Radical ownership builds long-term power and independence.
[18:19] – Rachel gives her one key takeaway for entrepreneurs rebuilding after failure.
- Be radically unafraid to rebuild yourself and strengthen your community.
- Focus on solving the real problem for real people not chasing applause or hype.
[19:08] – Call to action.
- Dungeons Not Dating – Check out Rachel’s website and join the waitlist.
- Dungeons Not Dating Instagram – Follow Dungeons Not Dating on Instagram to stay updated on the relaunch.
- Dungeons Not Dating LinkedIn – Follow Dungeons Not Dating on LinkedIn.
[20:16] – Thank you to our Sponsors!
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