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In 1999, Tiffany accidentally stood up Leon Chen for a date. As an apology, she baked and delivered a batch of warm cookies, and the concept of warm cookie delivery was born.
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3) There is no one way to get it done.
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Show Notes
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Today’s Audio MASTERCLASS: How College Sophomores Turned $20, a Cellphone and a Dream Into a Cookie Company with Tiffany and Leon Chen
[1:57] –Leon and Tiffany share how a college apartment cookie delivery service turned into a hundred-million-dollar-and-growing business.
- It started when Tiffany stood Leon up on a date.
- As an apology, Tiffany baked cookies for Leon.
- As soon as Leon took a bite of the cookie, he had his ah-ha moment!
- Leon and Tiffany started the warm cookie business in a college apartment two weeks later.
- They are still doing it 23 years later.
[4:04] –How did Tiff’s Treats become a technology-driven consumer brand over the years?
- It was a product of their problem-solving – of not having software to handle their services.
- They hired software engineers to build them custom software.
- Since then, they have continuously developed the platform that runs their business.
[5:29] – Leon: What are the biggest struggles you face in building the software side of your business?
- The most significant struggle they encountered was they kept hiring software developers who told them they would do the job, but then ended up not returning their call.
- Finally, they connected with someone who helped them, and that individual is now their Chief Technology Officer.
[6:47] – Leon: What is the secret to raising hundreds of millions of dollars from investors?
- They started in 1999, but they did not ask for funding until 2008.
- You’ll have more chances to succeed by building and focusing on growing your company first before raising money.
[7:49] – A timeout to thank our sponsors!
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- HighLevel: The ultimate all-in-one platform for entrepreneurs, marketers, coaches, and agencies! Learn more at HighLevelFire.com!
[10:13] – Tiffany: Tiff’s Top Five Core Values that guide the company.
- We Make People Happy
- We Make It Right
- We Protect The Brand
- We Are Passionate
- We Adapt And Grow
[15:28] – Leon: The Three Cornerstones of the Tiff’s Treats Brand: Technology, Charity, and Warm Moments
- Warm Moments: People were ordering Tiff’s Treats warm cookies as a way to connect and comfort one another.
- Charity: It started with the opening of their 2nd location, in 2006. They give 100% of the sales to their local charity for every opening.
- Technology: They are an e-commerce brand, and they spend 10% of their sales on building their technology. Their goal is to make the customer experience seamless.
[19:26] – Tiffany and Leon: How was that process for you two with writing your first book together – Not Just Cookies?
- They struggled at first, but Leon suggested writing together in different voices, and then it became easy.
- The fun and rewarding part was reminiscing about some of their early struggles, and looking back at their incredible inflection points – not just in their business but in their lives.
[21:49] – Tiffany and Leon talk about their book, It’s Not Just Cookies!
- It’s Not Just Cookies is about their struggles in starting their business and the lessons they’ve picked up along the way.
- They hope that aspiring entrepreneurs can relate and get inspiration out of it.
- If we can do it, you can too.
- Tiff’s Treats Cookie Delivery Website – Visit and get a 20% discount on cookies and/or the book, It’s Not Just Cookies!
[23:46] – Tiffany and Leon’s parting piece of guidance.
- You can do it. If you’re looking to start a business or you’re early on in your business, and you are unsure about your next growth step, have confidence in yourself. It can be scary, but go for it anyway.
- There is no one way to get it done.
[25:46] – Thank you to our Sponsors!
- HighLevel: The ultimate all-in-one platform for entrepreneurs, marketers, coaches, and agencies! Learn more at HighLevelFire.com!
- Freedom Circle: A powerful community of entrepreneurs led by JLD! Are you ready to go from idea to income in 90-days? Visit Freedom-Circle.com to learn more.
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